Curse

The Riven · May 31, 2010, 01:07 PM // 13:07

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Originally Posted by Kiky

Botting in gw is obviously not anet's fault but when they do nothing absolutely nothing about botting for more than 6 months, well then its clearly their fault.

Epic logic fail. Well done.

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Oh and this

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Originally Posted by Kiky

And do u think players that actually care about the game and enjoy it, will simply stop?

If they bleeding well cared about the game they wouldnt be using a sodding cheat. End of story.

To all those that "got mistakenly banned" cyas, and dont let the door hit your arse on the way out.

The Riven · May 31, 2010, 01:32 PM // 13:32

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Use of a third-party app that was clearly in violation of the User Agreement that enables the user to have an advantage over people who choose not to run such apps.

And I used the word Cheat once.

But ill say it again, QQ moar please cheats.

Kiky · May 31, 2010, 01:35 PM // 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Riven

Epic logic fail. Well done.

Edit...

Oh and this

If they bleeding well cared about the game they wouldnt be using a sodding cheat. End of story.

To all those that "got mistakenly banned" cyas, and dont let the door hit your arse on the way out.

With ur 15 yrs u shouldn't talk about logic just read through the post and if u cant add any constructive then simply DONT post. okay?
Second, nobody said in this topic that we got mistakely banned, before u comment anything at least read it, if it's too long, skip it. okay?
I bolded one of ur sentence cause i will not comment it it's bs as it is.

macke · May 31, 2010, 01:55 PM // 13:55

Game is 5y old. Why would they care about bots now?

And why do you care now? Let's talk about possible bot chances in GW2

Iuris · May 31, 2010, 02:01 PM // 14:01

Anet's policy ever was that all botters, all cheaters, all Real money traders are to be banned ASAP. They've been banning all of them they catch ever since I've started playing GW.

The fact that they can't catch them all or that it takes time to catch up to them (new bots being released etc.) does not mean Anet don't care or that they don't want to ban them.

The Riven · May 31, 2010, 02:02 PM // 14:02

Quite simply.. If there is no advantage to be gained by running bots, why did so many people choose to do so?

Apologist nonsense.

Mangione · May 31, 2010, 02:39 PM // 14:39

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Originally Posted by Kiky

And do u think players that actually care about the game and enjoy it, will simply stop?

I care about the GAME, and enjoy playing the GAME, but it is a GAME, not the center of my life, if it becomes unpleasant, I move to another GAME. One thing I know for sure, is that I don't go botting to ruin other people's experience.

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Originally Posted by Kiky

Botting in gw is obviously not anet's fault but when they do nothing absolutely nothing about botting for more than 6 months, well then its clearly their fault. What can the players do besides /report which most likely are ignored.

Players can move along.

Please, can you elaborate/explain the meaning of the last quoted part?
From what I understand by reading it, you are implying that since the players can't do nothing about botting, they should start using bots. Is that right?
Are you implying that your solution to a problem in a game you care about, is a contribute to worsen the problem?
Are you saying that the solution to botting is to take a bot and do the same?
Could you clarify, please?

reetkever · May 31, 2010, 02:41 PM // 14:41

QQ

If you bot, you get banned. That's how it is. It doesn't matter wether you bot 3 hours a month or 24 hours a day. Don't go breaking obvious rules and then come back whining after you got banned.

There is no need for different punishments for different 'levels of botting', rules are rules.

And just because A-Net 'doesn't do anything about it' for a long while (Which is a lie, A-Net has banned tons of bots in the past), it doesn't justify botting in the slightest bit.

Firebaall · May 31, 2010, 03:50 PM // 15:50

I'm going to say this to the OP:

Yes, you thought you were a legitimate player because you earned many of your in-game achievements without the aid of a bot. You still think it was ok to bot PVE "grind titles", because you didn't want to grind and considered yourself above earning them.

You still deserve to be gone from the game. Say goodbye to your gold trim, rare minis, stacks of ecto, and everything else you may have gathered over the years of "honest" play.

As to the topic, I'd rather Anet not ban RMT and gold farm accounts. Why? Because I'd rather have them around and known to Anet. I'd much rather have Anet ban the accounts of the players that purchase from these people.

Lord Sojar · May 31, 2010, 06:27 PM // 18:27

I'd like to point out what this petition could be compared to, just to show you how absolutely insane this request is.

This is akin to the general public asking SWAT when and where they plan to raid meth labs.

You do realize how idiotic that idea is? This is no different. ANET doesn't need to tell us how they are dealing with bots, when they plan to strike, and who they plan to target next. That is none of our business, and the element of surprise is on their side.

Perkunas · May 31, 2010, 06:35 PM // 18:35

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Originally Posted by don_the_vito

I doubt they care how anyone feels, it's all a business.

Sorry to seem to be picking on you, but this type of statement has been scattered throughout the other threads as well.

Why should they care how the botters feel? The botters chose to ignore the EULA without caring about ANet's or the rest of the community's "feelings".

The "I don't care, I am going to use it anyway," attitude, shows they cared about who?

don_the_vito · May 31, 2010, 07:42 PM // 19:42

I love the people who say botting once is like murdering once and botting a thousand times is like murdering a thousand times... in reality botting once is like j-walking because you're late, you know you shouldn't be doing it but if you get caught you get fined like 30 bucks, botting a thousand times to me is more like DUI, you have the ability to do some major damage and if you are caught you do deserve jail time.

Anywho, I think people should be able to pay the fine of their first offence (maybe like $0.25/ecto [$5 per rare mini or whatever] and like $0.10 for every 1k you have) and then a second offence is a permaban. Or you pay like $10 and get your account back with all your characters deleted and storage wiped. I really don't think its fair for the people who botted liked 1s just to see what the big deal is to get a permaban, especially if they have played for thousands of hours.

Finally, I have emailed Anet and not even a "we're busy" response yet...

Kiky · May 31, 2010, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by don_the_vito

I love the people who say botting once is like murdering once and botting a thousand times is like murdering a thousand times... in reality botting once is like j-walking because you're late, you know you shouldn't be doing it but if you get caught you get fined like 30 bucks, botting a thousand times to me is more like DUI, you have the ability to do some major damage and if you are caught you do deserve jail time.

Anywho, I think people should be able to pay the fine of their first offence (maybe like $0.25/ecto [$5 per rare mini or whatever] and like $0.10 for every 1k you have) and then a second offence is a permaban. Or you pay like $10 and get your account back with all your characters deleted and storage wiped. I really don't think its fair for the people who botted liked 1s just to see what the big deal is to get a permaban, especially if they have played for thousands of hours.

Finally, I have emailed Anet and not even a "we're busy" response yet...

I don't understand also that the first offenders get perma just like a megabotter. I'm not saying no punishment should be done but perma ban is too much. HFFF farmers got absolutely no punishment not even on the alt. accs they used (they were botting also), and most of them weren't first time offenders.
Now simply inject=ban.

reetkever · May 31, 2010, 08:01 PM // 20:01

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Originally Posted by don_the_vito

I love the people who say botting once is like murdering once and botting a thousand times is like murdering a thousand times... in reality botting once is like j-walking because you're late, you know you shouldn't be doing it but if you get caught you get fined like 30 bucks, botting a thousand times to me is more like DUI, you have the ability to do some major damage and if you are caught you do deserve jail time.

Anywho, I think people should be able to pay the fine of their first offence (maybe like $0.25/ecto [$5 per rare mini or whatever] and like $0.10 for every 1k you have) and then a second offence is a permaban. Or you pay like $10 and get your account back with all your characters deleted and storage wiped. I really don't think its fair for the people who botted liked 1s just to see what the big deal is to get a permaban, especially if they have played for thousands of hours.

Finally, I have emailed Anet and not even a "we're busy" response yet...

It's because rules are rules. Botting, regardless of how OFTEN you do it, is still a major offense. In fact, people that botted only once or twice shouldn't be punished less... People that botted often should be punished harder, but unfortunately that's not possible.

Jenn · May 31, 2010, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Thread Topic (since everyone seems to be missing it): How does anet plan to take care of game exploiters who use methods other than the one they banned for (dll injectors)?

It's a good topic and a valid concern. Stop targeting the OP or making fun of people who got banned, etc.

Gli · May 31, 2010, 08:14 PM // 20:14

It's terrible that there's still people botting. I'm sure ANet hasn't stopped looking into that particular breach of the EULA. Does the topic warrant any more discussion than that?

The Riven · May 31, 2010, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by Jenn

Thread Topic (since everyone seems to be missing it): How does anet plan to take care of game exploiters who use methods other than the one they banned for (dll injectors)?

It's a good topic and a valid concern. Stop targeting the OP or making fun of people who got banned, etc.

The only people who are able to answer that are anet. Do you think it would be wise for them to carefully explain the methods they plan to use?

Lord Sojar · May 31, 2010, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by Jenn

Thread Topic (since everyone seems to be missing it): How does anet plan to take care of game exploiters who use methods other than the one they banned for (dll injectors)?

It's a good topic and a valid concern. Stop targeting the OP or making fun of people who got banned, etc.

Again, it's NONE of our business how they plan to get rid of bots. They will do it, and it will be done in a manner that is fair, and thorough.

This is a petition that isn't going to be answered, and it is laced with excuses for cheating and language that suggests those that were banned permanently shouldn't have been, etc.

The thread topic and OP is contaminated with more QQ than I can shake a stick at. Riverside is being poisoned with all this bull about why people don't deserve this and that ban, because they were only doing this and that, and not that other thing, etc. Bot = Cheat = Ban. Simple.

Firebaall · May 31, 2010, 08:41 PM // 20:41

The OP is 100% disingenuous with this topic.

As it may be, his method of cheating was easier to detect with a larger degree of certainty. Anybody that watched the bots in Aion knew those that dll injected or otherwise modified packets were very easy for them to identify. It was absolutely hilarious to watch the botting forums for Aion after the first big dll injection bot ban. Especially since a large portion of those were paid for bots.

I suspect GW got some help from the GSU at PlayNC, and set these injection bots for the hit.

The OP not only cheated, but he used a cheat that painted a huge red target on his back. Do I want the other bots banned? Absoulutely. Will it happen anytime soon? I don't know.

What I do know, is that I'm glad he's gone. I'll take the cull of cheaters whenever I can.

cormac ap dunn · May 31, 2010, 08:59 PM // 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_the_vito

I love the people who say botting once is like murdering once and botting a thousand times is like murdering a thousand times... in reality botting once is like j-walking because you're late, you know you shouldn't be doing it but if you get caught you get fined like 30 bucks, botting a thousand times to me is more like DUI, you have the ability to do some major damage and if you are caught you do deserve jail time.

Anywho, I think people should be able to pay the fine of their first offence (maybe like $0.25/ecto [$5 per rare mini or whatever] and like $0.10 for every 1k you have) and then a second offence is a permaban. Or you pay like $10 and get your account back with all your characters deleted and storage wiped. I really don't think its fair for the people who botted liked 1s just to see what the big deal is to get a permaban, especially if they have played for thousands of hours.

Finally, I have emailed Anet and not even a "we're busy" response yet...

Let me see if I got this correct,you want to PAY real world money, for things that you didn't earn... yeah, thats much better then RMT. I believe there is already enough complaining about Anet and micro transactions. Imagine what would happen if Anet said it was OK to cheat and if you pay us for it, you can buy all your stuff back if you do cheat... Do people think before they post? scratch that , these are the same folks who didn't think before they cheated...